[Om] Problems with the MathML CDGroup

Clare So clare at scl.csd.uwo.ca
Wed Nov 2 17:38:40 CET 2005

Dear OpenMathers,

It seems like the openmath.org server is misconfigured or down again.

I am now living closer to the openmath.org server than a few months ago.  
Should I make a trip to the site of the server?  :) Bill and I had been 
working on a local copy of the OpenMath website.  Before the server is
up again, I hesitate to make any further comments on the OpenMath-MathML

(from London UK)

* W Naylor <wn at cs.bath.ac.uk> [2005-11-01 03:16] wrote: 
>  Hi all,
>  at the end of last week Clare So (ORCCA - University of Western Ontario) 
>  was visiting The University of Bath. She has been involved in a project 
>  with the objective of translating between OpenMath and MathML. She has 
>  come across various problems in this work so we had a meeting on Thursday 
>  & Friday to discuss them. Many of the problems are on the MathML side and 
>  as such can be circumvented by using semantics or csymbol elements. I did 
>  identify a few omissions on the OpenMath side however. These are the 
>  following:
>  1/ The MathMLtypes CD is missing symbols for the 'multiset' and 
>  'matrix_row' types,
>  2/ The suchthat and map constructors (from set1) have no analogues in 
>  multiset.
>  3/ The suchthat operator in list1 is ambiguous, it gives no order on the 
>  items in the list to be returned (this of course does not matter for 
>  sets). I would suggest a new definition which had a signature:
>  suchthat
>  	S			(The set containing the elements)
>  	o: (S x S) -> Boolean	(an ordering on S)
>  	p: S -> Boolean		(the selector predicate)
>  it seems that MathML has an 'order' attribute in place of the ordering 
>  function I'm suggesting. This has 2 possible values, numeric or 
>  lexicographic (which it must be said has a range of interpretations!)
>  hopefully these CDs can be ammended,
>  all the best,
>  Bill
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