[Om3] binary vs n-ary relations
Michael Kohlhase
m.kohlhase at jacobs-university.de
Thu Sep 25 10:37:43 CEST 2008
Professor James Davenport wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Bruce Miller wrote:
>
>> Professor James Davenport wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Paul Libbrecht wrote:
>>>
>>>> Making them n-ary doesn't solve the classical writing of
>>>> a < b > c
>>>> which is used quite often still.
>>>>
>>> Is it? Oh my God ....
>>>
>> I agree; that's scary!
>> OTOH, it is quite common to string different,
>> but "consistent", relations together:
>> a = b > c = d >= e >> f
>>
>> Sometimes the consistency is dubious:
>> a = b
>> approx c
>> approx d
>> (where the approx is indicating that the rhs has
>> been somehow approximated, expanded or whatever).
>> I've seen cases where it seemed that the d
>> was more likely an approximation of a than c!
>>
> Indeed so, and therefore it is ahrd to give SEMANTICS to these.
>
> <snip> And then there's the occasional
>
>> Indeed; while I do think it is appealing to be able to
>> preserve this notational structure, nary relations
>> only scratch the surface. Short of a contrived
>> multi-relation construct, this situation would
>> seem to be best solved (at a MML level) by
>> a <semantics> pairing of the desired notation
>> and the underlying logic, probably using sharing/id/ref.
>>
>>
> Indeed so, or some other notational method to be invented, but it's a
> NOTATION, not SEMANTICS.
>
> Michael: I fear you're out-numbered.
>
I feel quite comfortable being outnumbered here, I just want to be able
to make justified decisions and therefore make the most controversial
proposal to get people to discuss.
Michael
> James
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